Tales of Maj'Eyal - User contributions [en]

User:Cathbald

2020-03-14T20:45:03Z

Cathbald:

I guess I will follow the Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

I will also flaunt my [https://te4.org/user/101797/wins winners table] like him ! 25 insane/RL AoA wins, and 3 insane EoR wins (1 for each class and race)

'''<big>General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series</big>''' ''all those guides nee to be looked at since 1.6 changed things up, but are still pretty handy''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=49823 EoR zone order guide] With a map ;) Less in-depth than the AoA one.

And more to come!

'''<big>Class guides</big>''' ''all of those need to be updated for cults, and also 1.6''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will see some more.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48756 Berserker] great class to start the game with, and possibly getting your first win :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=48764 Shadowblade] more complicated class than those above despite being unlocked at the start. Very fun and powerful :D

Also more to come!

'''<big>New ! My addons : </big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=49192 My shaman addon]An hybrid class that switch weapons in combat, summons spirits and invoke thunder. My first project.

'''<big>Not my guides but great ressources</big>'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)
* [https://tometips.github.io/# Tometips] The link to follow if you're wondering about talent scaling with levels/mastery. When it is relevant, tometips assume the char to have 1000 HP and 100 in all powers. Great resource.

User:Cathbald

2019-09-22T16:31:06Z

Cathbald:

I guess I will follow the Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

I will also flaunt my [https://te4.org/user/101797/wins winners table] like him ! 21 insane/RL AoA wins, still need to win insane EoR though.

'''<big>General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=49823 EoR zone order guide] With a map ;) Less in-depth than the AoA one.

And more to come!

'''<big>Class guides</big>''' all of those need to be updated for cults
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will see some more.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48756 Berserker] great class to start the game with, and possibly getting your first win :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=48764 Shadowblade] more complicated class than those above despite being unlocked at the start. Very fun and powerful :D

Also more to come!

'''<big>New ! My addons : </big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=49192 My shaman addon]An hybrid class that switch weapons in combat, summons spirits and invoke thunder. My first project.

'''<big>Not my guides but great ressources</big>'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)
* [https://tometips.github.io/# Tometips] The link to follow if you're wondering about talent scaling with levels/mastery. When it is relevant, tometips assume the char to have 1000 HP and 100 in all powers. Great resource.

User:Cathbald

2018-09-29T09:22:07Z

Cathbald: 21 wins :frog:

I guess I will follow the Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

I will also flaunt my [https://te4.org/user/101797/wins winners table] like him ! 21 insane/RL AoA wins, still need to win insane EoR though.

'''<big>General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p Cults update as soon as i get the time.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.

And more to come!

'''<big>Class guides</big>''' all of those need to be updated for cults
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will see some more.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48756 Berserker] great class to start the game with, and possibly getting your first win :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=48764 Shadowblade] more complicated class than those above despite being unlocked at the start. Very fun and powerful :D

Also more to come!

'''<big>New ! My addons : </big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=49192 My shaman addon]An hybrid class that switch weapons in combat, summons spirits and invoke thunder. My first project.

'''<big>Not my guides but great ressources</big>'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)
* [https://tometips.github.io/# Tometips] The link to follow if you're wondering about talent scaling with levels/mastery. When it is relevant, tometips assume the char to have 1000 HP and 100 in all powers. Great resource.

Addon Uploading

2018-08-15T20:34:58Z

Cathbald:

Once your addon works and you want the world to see it you need to follow some simple steps to get it up on te4.org (and Steam Workshop if you own ToME on Steam):
* Check to make sure your addon has tags specified in the init.lua file (tags = { 'races', 'human', 'challenge'}). The tags should be descriptive to assist searching on the te4.org website.
* Create a folder with the format "tome-[short_name]", where the short_name is the same as that specified in the init.lua (tome-humansextended).
* Place your addon folder in the [TOME install folder]/game/addons folder, and copy into it all of your addon files (init.lua, data folder, hooks folder, overload folder, superload folder).
* Make sure developer mode is on (from the main menu: Options >> Developer mode >> Yes).
* Make sure Addon Developer's Tool is on (in the Addons menu).
* Make sure you are logged in-game.
* Make a new character with the addon enabled.
* Enter debug menu (ctrl+a if you didn't re-bind it), and choose the Addon Developer menu.
* Select the option to register a new addon if this is the first time uploading this addon.
* Select the option to publish the addon to the te4.org website.
* Wait as the game packages and uploads your addon.
* Optional: do the same thing with the Steam upload.
* If you are having trouble uploading to steam. Try Purging Cloud Saves (From the main menu: Options >> Steam >> Purge Cloud Saves). These can be in a bad state and block uploading.
* You're done, your addon should now appear on [http://te4.org/addons/tome te4.org addons list].
* Optional (but recommended): Create a te4.org forum account and start a new topic in the Addons section to give players a place to provide feedback about your addon and link to the topic from the te4.org addon page created for your addon. You will have to wait for a moderator to approve your topic before you can link to it.

To update your addon on the Steam Workshop: Edit your addon on your profile page to be able to enter the addon steam workshop id (check workshop page url for id), allowing you to update your old workshop entry.

Notice: If you are having trouble updating the addon with steam where it updates but doesn't really update, but not with te4.org, you could be running into an exotic bug with steam synchronization. This set of steps discovered by stuntofthelitter has fixed several people who have run into this problem:
Re-enable steam cloud in ToME. Let steam sync. Ran the game, disabled steam cloud saves, did NOT purge data.

A second fix for steam because that first one didn't help me : go to C:\Users\[username]\T-Engine\4.0\tome\user-generated-addons and replace the old zip file with the new one, done.

User:Cathbald

2018-08-14T00:52:48Z

Cathbald:

I guess I will follow the Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

I will also flaunt my [https://te4.org/user/101797/wins winners table] like him ! 18 insane/RL AoA wins, still need to win insane EoR though.

'''<big>General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p Cults update as soon as i get the time.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.

And more to come!

'''<big>Class guides</big>''' all of those need to be updated for cults
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will see some more.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48756 Berserker] great class to start the game with, and possibly getting your first win :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=48764 Shadowblade] more complicated class than those above despite being unlocked at the start. Very fun and powerful :D

Also more to come!

'''<big>New ! My addons : </big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=49192 My shaman addon]An hybrid class that switch weapons in combat, summons spirits and invoke thunder. My first project.

'''<big>Not my guides but great ressources</big>'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)
* [https://tometips.github.io/# Tometips] The link to follow if you're wondering about talent scaling with levels/mastery. When it is relevant, tometips assume the char to have 1000 HP and 100 in all powers. Great resource.

User:Cathbald

2018-08-14T00:52:31Z

Cathbald:

I guess I will follow the Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

I will also flaunt my [https://te4.org/user/101797/wins winners table] like him ! 18 insane/RL AoA wins, still need to win insane EoR though.

'''<big>General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p Cults update as soon as i get the time.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.

And more to come!

'''<big>Class guides</big>''' all of those need to be updated for cults
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will see some more.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48756 Berserker] great class to start the game with, and possibly getting your first win :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=48764 Shadowblade] more complicated class than those above despite being unlocked at the start. Very fun and powerful :D

Also more to come!

'''<big>New, my addons : </big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=49192 My shaman addon]An hybrid class that switch weapons in combat, summons spirits and invoke thunder. My first project.

'''<big>Not my guides but great ressources</big>'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)
* [https://tometips.github.io/# Tometips] The link to follow if you're wondering about talent scaling with levels/mastery. When it is relevant, tometips assume the char to have 1000 HP and 100 in all powers. Great resource.

User:Cathbald

2018-06-02T01:20:26Z

Cathbald:

I guess I will follow the Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

I will also flaunt my [https://te4.org/user/101797/wins winners table] like him ! 18 insane/RL AoA wins, still need to win insane EoR though.

'''<big>General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p Cults update as soon as i get the time.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.

And more to come!

'''<big>Class guides</big>''' all of those need to be updated for cults
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will see some more.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48756 Berserker] great class to start the game with, and possibly getting your first win :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=48764 Shadowblade] more complicated class than those above despite being unlocked at the start. Very fun and powerful :D

Also more to come!

'''<big>Not my guides but great ressources</big>'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)
* [https://tometips.github.io/# Tometips] The link to follow if you're wondering about talent scaling with levels/mastery. When it is relevant, tometips assume the char to have 1000 HP and 100 in all powers. Great resource.

User:Cathbald

2018-05-23T09:54:18Z

Cathbald:

I guess I will follow the Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

I will also flaunt my [https://te4.org/user/101797/wins winners table] like him ! 16 insane/RL AoA wins, still need to win insane EoR though.

'''<big>General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p Cults update as soon as i get the time.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.

And more to come!

'''<big>Class guides</big>''' all of those need to be updated for cults
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will see some more.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48756 Berserker] great class to start the game with, and possibly getting your first win :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=48764 Shadowblade] more complicated class than those above despite being unlocked at the start. Very fun and powerful :D

Also more to come!

'''<big>Not my guides but great ressources</big>'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)
* [https://tometips.github.io/# Tometips] The link to follow if you're wondering about talent scaling with levels/mastery. When it is relevant, tometips assume the char to have 1000 HP and 100 in all powers. Great resource.

Recommended Zone Order Progression

2018-05-06T09:44:54Z

Cathbald:

==Introduction==

This guide is meant for newer users who need advice about which order to complete different zones. It is not true for all situations and all classes, and experienced players can choose to skip some zones or move the order about.

If you've got a suggestion for different zone order, '''please''' write it up on the [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}| talk page]] for discussion.

This page is '''not for strategy''' about the individual zones; please put that on the actual zone's page.

For an alternate guide with more details on each zone and several maps to not be lost on the overworld, check out [http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Cath's zone order guide]

==Main Campaign==

=== Starting Game to Level 10 ===

# Starting zone(s) for your race/class.
# [[Trollmire]]: Floors 1 to 3 only.
# The Tier 1 Zones:
## [[Norgos Lair]]
## [[Heart of the Gloom]]
## [[Scintillating Caves]]
## [[Rhaloren Camp]]
# [[Derth]]: Talk to the Shady Man in the North for his [[The agent of the arena|Quest]]. Must be done before lvl 14.
# [[Trollmire]]: Floor 4
# [[Ruins of Kor'Pul]]

=== Level 10 to Level 20 ===

# [[Lumberjack Village]]: Spawns after you randomly receive quest just north of the city of [[Last Hope]].
# [[Unknown Tunnels]]: Encountered on world map randomly after lvl 6. Can only be encountered once.
# The Tier 2 Zones:
## [[Old Forest]]: Don't descend into [[Lake of Nur]].
## [[The Maze]]
## [[Sandworm Lair]]
## [[Daikara]]: Don't enter [[Temporal Rift]].
# [[Hidden Compound]]
# [[Ruined Halfling Complex]]
# [[Temporal Rift]]: Reached through [[Daikara]]. Dangerous for Melee classes.
# [[Lake of Nur]]: Reached through [[Old Forest]]).

=== Level 20 to Level 30 ===

The order at this level starts to become more fluid. You can do these zones in any order, but gaining levels before going into Dreadfell will be helpful for the battle with [[The Master]].

# [[Ruined Dungeon]]: Random bosses. Can be super dangerous.
# [[Dogroth Caldera]]: Spawns after lvl 20 in 20% of all games unless you are a [[Yeek]] (100% chance)
# [[Old Conclave Vault]]: Only spawns if you receive quest in [[Ruined Halfling Complex]]. Quest giver only spawns in 30% of games unless you are a [[Shalore]] (100% chance)
# [[Golem Graveyard]]: Just to clear for extra XP. Return in post-game.
# [[Dreadfell]]
# [[Tempest Peak]]: Enter [[Derth]] for [[Storming the city|Quest]] and clear Elementals. Then go to the [[Angolwen]] or [[Zigur]] leader to continue to Tempest Peak.
# [[Dark Crypt]]: Encountered on world map randomly after lvl 24. Can only be encountered once. Very dangerous, especially for melee classes.
# [[Last Hope Graveyard]]: Go down a floor and then open all of the individual graves before engaging the boss.
# [[Mark of the Spellblaze]]
# [[Reknor]]: Enter Farportal at the end.

=== Level 30 to Level 40 ===

At this point you should be in the [[Far East]].

# [[Unremarkable Cave]]: You spawn here.
# [[Ardhungol]]: Spawns after you receive [[Eight legs of wonder|Quest]] from [[Melnela]] in [[Gates of Morning]]. Turn in quest to her after.
# [[Temple of Creation]]: Spawns if you run into it on world map on the coast. Appears as ''Entrance to an Underwater Cave'' on the coast. No air bubbles. Requires water breathing.
# [[Vor Armoury]]: '''NOT''' Vor Pride. Spawns after you start the [[There and back again|Quest]] in [[Gates of Morning]]. Return after and turn in quest.
# [[Briagh's Lair]]: Spawns after you continue the [[There and back again|Quest]] in [[Gates of Morning]]. Return after and turn in quest. Then enter the Farportal.
# [[Backup Guardians]]:
## [[Trollmire]] (floor 2)
## [[Kor'Pul]] (floor 3)
## [[Reknor]] (floor 4)
## [[Scintillating Caves]] (floor 3)
## [[The Maze]] (floor 2)
## [[Dreadfell]] (floor 1)
## [[Daikara]] (floor 4)
## [[Sandworm Lair]] (floor 1)
## [[Old Forest]] (floor 3)
## [[The Deep Bellow]] (floor 3) Dwarves only.
# [[Ancient Elven Ruins]]
# [[Sludgenest]]: Spawns after lvl 30 in 30% of all games unless you are a [[Thalore]] (100% chance)
# [[Back and there again|Tannen's Quest]]: Ask around [[Last Hope]] to unlock this.
# [[Shadow Crypt]]

=== Level 40 to Level 50 ===

# [[Valley of the Moon]]: If you get the quest.
# The Orc Prides. Change order to suit your strengths.
## [[Gorbat Pride]]: Southern end of continent. (''Wilders'')
## [[Grushnak Pride]]: Northwest (''Fighters'') Don't enter the [[Slime Tunnels|Slimy Pit]].
## [[Vor Pride]]: Northeast (''Mages'')
## [[Rak'Shor Pride]]: Southwest (''Necromancers'')
# [[Eruan]]
# [[Slime Tunnels]]: Reached through [[Grushnak Pride]].
# [[High Peak]]

=== Optional After Winning the Game ===

# [[Vor Armoury]] vault
# Clear out the [[Sludgenest]], if it spawned
# Return to [[Golem Graveyard]].
# Kill All Wizards.

User:Cathbald

2018-04-06T09:29:20Z

Cathbald: Added tometips

I guess I will follow the '''Boldtext'''Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

'''<big>General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.

And more to come!

'''<big>Class guides</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will probably need another for 1.6
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48756 Berserker] great class to start the game with, and possibly getting your first win :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=48764 Shadowblade] more complicated class than those above despite being unlocked at the start. Very fun and powerful :D

Also more to come!

'''<big>Not my guides but great ressources</big>'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)
* [https://tometips.github.io/# Tometips] The link to follow if you're wondering about talent scaling with levels/mastery. When it is relevant, tometips assume the char to have 1000 HP and 100 in all powers. Great resource.

User:Cathbald

2018-04-02T17:07:08Z

Cathbald: sblade guide

User:Cathbald

2018-03-27T07:50:25Z

Cathbald:

I guess I will follow the '''Boldtext'''Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

'''<big>General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.

And more to come!

'''<big>Class guides</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will probably need another for 1.6
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48756 Berserker] great class to start the game with, and possibly getting your first win :p

Also more to come!

'''<big>Not my guides but great ressources</big>'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)

User:Cathbald

2018-03-27T07:48:56Z

Cathbald:

I guess I will follow the '''Boldtext'''Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

'''<big>General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.
And more to come!

'''<big>Class guides</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will probably need another for 1.6
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
Also more to come!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48756 Berserker] great class to start the game with, and possibly getting your first win :p

'''<big>Not my guides but great ressources</big>'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)

User:Cathbald

2018-03-10T22:39:12Z

Cathbald:

I guess I will follow the '''Boldtext'''Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

'''<big>General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.
And more to come!

'''<big>Class guides</big>'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will probably need another for 1.6
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
Also more to come!

'''<big>Not my guides but great ressources</big>'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)

User:Cathbald

2018-03-10T22:38:03Z

Cathbald:

I guess I will follow the '''Boldtext'''Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

'''General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.
And more to come!

'''Class guides'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will probably need another for 1.6
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
Also more to come!

'''Not my guides but great ressources'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)

User:Cathbald

2018-03-10T22:35:41Z

Cathbald:

I guess I will follow the Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

'''General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.
And more to come!

'''Class guides'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will probably need another for 1.6
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.
Also more to come!

'''Not my guides but great ressources'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)

User:Cathbald

2018-03-10T22:34:42Z

Cathbald: Good to go?

I guess I will follow the Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

'''General game knowledge guides - Cath's BFG series'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48659 Inscription guide] More important than you would think!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Zone and zone order guide] This guide has maps! And is more complete than the wiki zone order. And imo better but i'm biased :p
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48707 Prodigy guide] Hopefully also has interesting balancing discussion.
And more to come!

'''Class guides'''
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=45152 Demonologist] My first love and first guide. Went through several revisions and will probably need another for 1.6
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=48257 Anorithil] An old class that needs new trees and build variation, still fun to play if you like lots of AoE and DoT!
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=48308 Bulwark] One of the noob class and a noob trap, Bulwark deals great damage but is actually one of the least tanky classes.

'''Not my guides but great ressources'''
*[https://te4.org/wiki/User:Bpat Bpat's wiki page] Guide compilation and tier list, up to date.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=46389 Micbran's noob guide] Great way to get started, contains tons of useful info.
*[http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48546 My tier list] Not purely based on power but also what I consider to be easy to learn/play. As such passive defense >> active defenses, it also make it so the classes at the top have more chance to be fun to play (if you appreciate the same gameplay I do)

User talk:Bpat

2018-03-07T16:40:22Z

Cathbald: Created page with "How come there is no discussion here about bpat being a noob who writes flawed guides? :frog:"

How come there is no discussion here about bpat being a noob who writes flawed guides? :frog:

User:Cathbald

2018-03-07T16:36:49Z

Cathbald: Did a thing

I guess I will follow the Bpat's way and create this page so accessing all my guides becomes easier. Damn the 5 link limit in forum signature!

*WIP*

Recommended Zone Order Progression

2018-03-05T14:01:08Z

Cathbald: Added a link to the new zone guide on the forums

==Introduction==

Based on the old Goon Zone order progression guide, this guide is meant for newer users who need advice about which order to complete different zones. It is not true for all situations and all classes, and experienced players can choose to skip some zones or move the order about.
An alternate zone guide written more recently can be found at http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48660 Includes maps and more zone description.

If you've got a suggestion for different zone order, '''please''' write it up on the [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}| talk page]] for discussion.

Also, this page is '''not for strategy''' about the individual zones; please put that on the actual zone's page. To keep this page from becoming cluttered, please limit commentary and notes to those applying to decisions about zones.

==Main Campaign==

=== Starting Game to Level 10 ===

# Starting zone(s) for your race/class.
# [[Trollmire]]: Floors 1 to 3 only.
# The Tier 1 Zones:
## [[Norgos Lair]]
## [[Heart of the Gloom]]
## [[Scintillating Caves]]
## [[Rhaloren Camp]]
# [[Derth]]: Talk to the Shady Man in the North for his [[The agent of the arena|Quest]]. Must be done before lvl 14.
# [[Trollmire]]: Floor 4
# [[Ruins of Kor'Pul]]

=== Level 10 to Level 20 ===

# [[Lumberjack Village]]: Spawns after you randomly receive quest just north of the city of [[Last Hope]].
# [[Unknown Tunnels]]: Encountered on world map randomly after lvl 6. Can only be encountered once.
# The Tier 2 Zones:
## [[Old Forest]]: Don't descend into [[Lake of Nur]].
## [[The Maze]]
## [[Sandworm Lair]]
## [[Daikara]]: Don't enter [[Temporal Rift]].
# [[Hidden Compound]]
# [[Ruined Halfling Complex]]
# [[Temporal Rift]]: Reached through [[Daikara]]. Dangerous for Melee classes.
# [[Lake of Nur]]: Reached through [[Old Forest]]).

=== Level 20 to Level 30 ===

The order at this level starts to become more fluid. You can do these zones in any order, but gaining levels before going into Dreadfell will be helpful for the battle with [[The Master]].

# [[Ruined Dungeon]]: Random bosses. Can be super dangerous.
# [[Dogroth Caldera]]: Spawns after lvl 20 in 20% of all games unless you are a [[Yeek]] (100% chance)
# [[Old Conclave Vault]]: Only spawns if you receive quest in [[Ruined Halfling Complex]]. Quest giver only spawns in 30% of games unless you are a [[Shalore]] (100% chance)
# [[Golem Graveyard]]: Just to clear for extra XP. Return in post-game.
# [[Dreadfell]]
# [[Tempest Peak]]: Enter [[Derth]] for [[Storming the city|Quest]] and clear Elementals. Then go to the [[Angolwen]] or [[Zigur]] leader to continue to Tempest Peak.
# [[Dark Crypt]]: Encountered on world map randomly after lvl 24. Can only be encountered once. Very dangerous, especially for melee classes.
# [[Last Hope Graveyard]]: Go down a floor and then open all of the individual graves before engaging the boss.
# [[Mark of the Spellblaze]]
# [[Reknor]]: Enter Farportal at the end.

=== Level 30 to Level 40 ===

At this point you should be in the [[Far East]].

# [[Unremarkable Cave]]: You spawn here.
# [[Ardhungol]]: Spawns after you receive [[Eight legs of wonder|Quest]] from [[Melnela]] in [[Gates of Morning]]. Turn in quest to her after.
# [[Temple of Creation]]: Spawns if you run into it on world map on the coast. Appears as ''Entrance to an Underwater Cave'' on the coast. No air bubbles. Requires water breathing.
# [[Vor Armoury]]: '''NOT''' Vor Pride. Spawns after you start the [[There and back again|Quest]] in [[Gates of Morning]]. Return after and turn in quest.
# [[Briagh's Lair]]: Spawns after you continue the [[There and back again|Quest]] in [[Gates of Morning]]. Return after and turn in quest. Then enter the Farportal.
# [[Backup Guardians]]:
## [[Trollmire]] (floor 2)
## [[Kor'Pul]] (floor 3)
## [[Reknor]] (floor 4)
## [[Scintillating Caves]] (floor 3)
## [[The Maze]] (floor 2)
## [[Dreadfell]] (floor 1)
## [[Daikara]] (floor 4)
## [[Sandworm Lair]] (floor 1)
## [[Old Forest]] (floor 3)
## [[The Deep Bellow]] (floor 3) Dwarves only.
# [[Ancient Elven Ruins]]
# [[Sludgenest]]: Spawns after lvl 30 in 30% of all games unless you are a [[Thalore]] (100% chance)
# [[Back and there again|Tannen's Quest]]: Ask around [[Last Hope]] to unlock this.
# [[Shadow Crypt]]

=== Level 40 to Level 50 ===

# [[Valley of the Moon]]: If you get the quest.
# The Orc Prides. Change order to suit your strengths.
## [[Gorbat Pride]]: Southern end of continent. (''Wilders'')
## [[Grushnak Pride]]: Northwest (''Fighters'')
## [[Vor Pride]]: Northeast (''Mages'')
## [[Rak'Shor Pride]]: Southwest (''Necromancers'')
# [[Eruan]]
# [[Slime Tunnels]]
# [[High Peak]]

=== Optional After Winning the Game ===

# [[Vor Armoury]] vault
# Clear out the [[Sludgenest]], if it spawned
# Return to [[Golem Graveyard]].
# Kill All Wizards.