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Vyn: /* General Impressions */

2021-10-05T10:40:48Z

‎General Impressions

Vyn: /* General Impressions */ Willpower and stamina

2021-09-13T08:13:38Z

‎General Impressions: Willpower and stamina

Vyn: /* General Impressions */ More Vim issues. Can still use talents without Vim by paying life.

2021-09-13T08:02:19Z

‎General Impressions: More Vim issues. Can still use talents without Vim by paying life.

Vyn: /* General Impressions */

2021-09-12T23:32:13Z

‎General Impressions

Vyn: /* General Impressions */ Beware of silence and anti-magic

2021-09-12T23:31:29Z

‎General Impressions: Beware of silence and anti-magic

Vyn: /* General Impressions */ Talents subject to spell saves

2021-09-12T23:26:33Z

‎General Impressions: Talents subject to spell saves

Vyn at 23:21, 12 September 2021

2021-09-12T23:21:27Z

Vyn: /* General Impressions */ Very quick Elandar kill

2021-09-12T23:20:56Z

‎General Impressions: Very quick Elandar kill

Vyn: Initial notes

2021-09-12T23:19:23Z

Initial notes

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The following notes based on the character below:

[https://te4.org/characters/128696/tome/569b76dc-85a4-45bd-8cbd-e743684ae2a5 Ulisil: Shalore Doombringer (nightmare/adventure)]

Made this character because I wanted to play a melee character for a change of pace and [[unlockables|unlock]] the [[Ogre]] race, which is guaranteed with a [[Shalore]], and this was the result.

==Play Style==

==General Impressions==
* [[Doombringer]] really has incredible damage output when using {{t|Destroyer}}. This makes a good combo with the [[Shalore]]'s {{t|Timeless}} racial talent. Maybe that's not a surprise since everything is better with {{t|Timeless}} however.
* [[Tirakai's Maul]] seems like an ideal weapon for doombringers. Putting a fire gem in the maul allows it to deal AoE flameshock damage on crits, which is basically a better stun. It seems to be applied with physical power rather than spellpower, allowing one to stun enemies with high spell save that would otherwise shrug off {{t|Incinerating Blows}}. The fire element can take advantage of the resistance debuff provided by{{t|Fiery Torment}} to create big damage bursts. You can also easily switch the maul's element, and work around resistant enemies with ease.
* {{t|Reckless Strike}} is also a great attack since it completely ignores resistances. It's a lot of fun to one-shot enemies like [[Grgglck the Devouring Darkness]] that have 100% resistance to all damage, and would normally requires special mechanics to overcome.
* {{t|Darkfire}} has huge AoE reach. Even though the doombringer is supposed to be a melee fighter, this ranged spell is great for pulling enemies from around corners, so you don't need to risk poking your head out and getting pulled/teleported into a dangerous situation.

==Deaths and Threats==
* First death was due to forgetting to activate scouting talent before descending stairs in the [[Dark Crypt]]. My light radius was too low to notice that I would immediately aggro several enemies in the dark. Despite recognizing the initial mistake, I thought I could push throw and used a turn to activate my wand of clairvoyance, instead of just going back up the stairs. Once I saw I was surrounded, I thought the enemies could still be defeated with a few quick attacks after activating {{t|Destroyer}}, so I did not just turn on {{t|Wraithform}} and a movement infusion to escape through a nearby wall. The elven cultists soon showed my folly by using {{t|Dark Portal}} to displace me several times, waking up half the enemies in the level and putting me far away from nearby walls I could go through.
* Second death was in a [[High Peak]] spider vault. I killed a faerlhing with {{t|Disruption shield}}, and was walking through the resulting arcane storm, when the damage suddenly doubled and killed me. It turns out another faerlhing had died nearby and popped its {{t|Disruption Shield}} shield too, and I had not noticed that I was walking into two very high damage AoEs. Nearly all of my escape/heal options were unused since I was being greedy and thinking I could just tank another turn before using a my {{t|Blazing Rebirth}} for a full heal.

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 ** [[Elandar]] just died in three attacks after taking a turn to use a [[Rune of Dissipation]] on him.
 * Most of the doombringer's talents are spells, so the class is very vulnerable to being silenced. The extra effects on talents can often be resisted by casters with high spell save too. The stun on {{t|Incinerating Blows}} and silence on {{t|Fiery Grasp}} would often bounce off casters with high spell save because of this.
-* [[Tirakai's Maul]] seems like an ideal weapon for doombringers. Putting a fire gem in the maul allows it to deal AoE flameshock damage on crits, which is basically a better stun. It seems to be applied with physical power rather than spellpower too, allowing one to stun enemies with high spell saves. The fire element can also benefit from the resistance debuff provided by {{t|Fiery Torment}} to create big damage bursts. You can also easily switch the maul's element type and work around resistant enemies with ease.
+* Losing all [[Vim]] to {{t|Mana Clash}} can really hurt a doombringer, as the resource is difficult to recover quickly, so one needs to be extra careful around anti-magic enemies. {{t|Demonic Blood}} and {{t|Abyssal Shield}} both provide buffs that depend on your current Vim too. You can still activate your talents even without Vim, but it will cost you 2x the amount in life instead.
 * {{t|Reckless Strike}} is also a great attack since it completely ignores resistances. It's a lot of fun to one-shot enemies like [[Grgglck the Devouring Darkness]] that have 100% resistance to all damage, and would normally requires special mechanics to overcome.
 * {{t|Darkfire}} has huge AoE reach. Even though the doombringer is supposed to be a melee fighter, this ranged spell is great for pulling enemies from around corners, so you don't need to risk poking your head out and getting pulled/teleported into a dangerous situation.
-* Losing all [[Vim]] to {{t|Mana Clash}} can really hurt a doombringer, so one needs to be extra careful around anti-magic enemies. {{t|Demonic Blood}} and {{t|Abyssal Shield}} both provide buffs that depend on your current Vim. You can still activate your talents even without Vim, but it will cost you 2x the amount in life instead.
+* It is worth putting some points into willpower, as this improves your stamina pool and Vim recovery on enemy kills. Stamina can be a problem in the early game, becomes easy to manage after acquiring {{t|Destroyer}}, then turns into a limit again if you get caught in a battle longer than {{t|Destroyer}}'s duration.
-* It is worth putting some points into willpower, as this improves your stamina pool and Vim recovery on enemy kills. Stamina can be a problem in the early game, become easy to manage after acquiring {{t|Destroyer}}, then turns into a limit again if you get caught in a battle longer than {{t|Destroyer}}'s duration.
 ==Deaths and Threats==
 * First death was due to forgetting to activate scouting talent before descending stairs in the [[Dark Crypt]]. My light radius was too low to notice that I would immediately aggro several enemies in the dark. Despite recognizing the initial mistake, I thought I could push throw and used a turn to activate my wand of clairvoyance, instead of just going back up the stairs. Once I saw I was surrounded, I thought the enemies could still be defeated with a few quick attacks after activating {{t|Destroyer}}, so I did not just turn on {{t|Wraithform}} and a movement infusion to escape through a nearby wall. The elven cultists soon showed my folly by using {{t|Dark Portal}} to displace me several times, waking up half the enemies in the level and putting me far away from nearby walls I could go through.
 * Second death was in a [[High Peak]] spider vault. I killed a faerlhing with {{t|Disruption shield}}, and was walking through the resulting arcane storm, when the damage suddenly doubled and killed me. It turns out another faerlhing had died nearby and popped its {{t|Disruption Shield}} shield too, and I had not noticed that I was walking into two very high damage AoEs. Nearly all of my escape/heal options were unused since I was being greedy and thinking I could just tank another turn before using a my {{t|Blazing Rebirth}} for a full heal.

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 * [[Doombringer]] really has incredible damage output when using {{t|Destroyer}}. This makes a good combo with the [[Shalore]]'s {{t|Timeless}} racial talent. Maybe that's not a surprise since everything is better with {{t|Timeless}} however.
 ** [[Elandar]] just died in three attacks after taking a turn to use a [[Rune of Dissipation]] on him.
-* [[Tirakai's Maul]] seems like an ideal weapon for doombringers. Putting a fire gem in the maul allows it to deal AoE flameshock damage on crits, which is basically a better stun. It seems to be applied with physical power rather than spellpower, allowing one to stun enemies with high spell save that would otherwise shrug off {{t|Incinerating Blows}}. The fire element can take advantage of the resistance debuff provided by{{t|Fiery Torment}} to create big damage bursts. You can also easily switch the maul's element, and work around resistant enemies with ease.
+* Most of the doombringer's talents are spells, so their extra effects can often be resisted by casters with high spell save. The stun on {{t|Incinerating Blows}} and silence on {{t|Fiery Grasp}} would often bounce off casters with high spell save because of this.
 * {{t|Reckless Strike}} is also a great attack since it completely ignores resistances. It's a lot of fun to one-shot enemies like [[Grgglck the Devouring Darkness]] that have 100% resistance to all damage, and would normally requires special mechanics to overcome.
 * {{t|Darkfire}} has huge AoE reach. Even though the doombringer is supposed to be a melee fighter, this ranged spell is great for pulling enemies from around corners, so you don't need to risk poking your head out and getting pulled/teleported into a dangerous situation.

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 [https://te4.org/characters/128696/tome/569b76dc-85a4-45bd-8cbd-e743684ae2a5 Ulisil: Shalore Doombringer (nightmare/adventure)]
-Made this character because I wanted to play a melee character for a change of pace and [[unlockables|unlock]] the [[Ogre]] race, which is guaranteed with a [[Shalore]], and this was the result.
+Made this character because I wanted to play a melee character for a change of pace and [[unlockables|unlock]] the [[Ogre]] race, which is guaranteed with a [[Shalore]].
 ==Play Style==