User talk:ScienceBall

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Hey, thanks for the welcome! I just have one question for now - where should I put extra details about a talent that aren't part of the description? Specifically, Tricks of the trade (talent) was slightly confusing to me because it halves damage penalties from invisibility, not from Invisibility (technically, it halves damage penalties from EFF_INVISIBILITY and Invisibility gives EFF_GREATER_INVISIBILITY as of the 1.7 rework). Anyways, I put a note on the Tricks of the trade page about that in case someone else might be confused by it, but I wasn't sure if I should have done it a different way. I checked the wiki questions page and saw someone asked pretty much the same question a couple years ago but it was never answered (lol) so if there's a better way to do it, let me know. Thanks! CestLaDonut (talk) 23:10, 4 August 2021 (CEST)

Hi. I don't know where the best place is to add extra details about a talent. I don't know if there is supposed to be a policy for how to do this. I'm not an admin or anything, I've just been one of the more active editors on the wiki for a little while (this currently isn't a very active wiki, at least compared to other wikis I've seen). I think the way you did it was good, and doesn't need to be changed. I remember adding more details to the description box (maybe in italics) when I did this kind of thing, but that might have not been the best way to do it. (I don't think I've done this very much.)
I haven't worked on talents much, because they're widely out of date, and [1] has up-to-date talents, so it isn't so vital to the playerbase for the wiki to have the talents right now, IMO. I want to revive the bot that automatically made talent pages, and I found the Github page for the bot, but I haven't worked on it yet beyond that. ScienceBall (talk) 04:57, 5 August 2021 (CEST)
I just wanted add a bit of my opinion. I think these additional notes on how talents actually work or interact with each other is really valuable for this wiki. While ToME Tips is a great site, it still has many limitations. Does a talent use raw or effective talent levels for some secondary effect? What is the breakpoint for a talent to gain an extra effect if you are using the Adept prodigy? Does Range Amplification Device affect Fire/Ice/Brain/Mind/Poison Storm? Game details like this really need to be crowd sourced, so this wiki can still be a very important source for talent information. I think it is a good idea to add notes like these to the talent page. As long as we also record the version number at the time (and it was in this case), then later readers should be able to make good use of that information. Vyn (talk) 17:54, 15 August 2021 (CEST)